====== Telecon 20170731 ====== __Agenda:__ * Optics and Packing * {{::opendragone_packing_20170731.pdf|Update on packing of optical systems (UMN)}} * Ray tracing examination of stray light and DLFOV comparison, {{::opticsstudy_20170731.pdf|Optics Study 2017-07-31}} (UMN) * Firing up far sidelobe analysis, {{::tran_et_al_2010.pdf|Tran et al. (2010)}} (Brad) * Anyone at JPL to run GRASP? (Amy) * Are we using the right shield geometry? (Amy) * Moving forward with deployables (Amy) * Scan * Scan angles with current focal plane (Kris) and general trade-offs (Julian) * Hydrazine or flywheels? What are reasonable spin and precession rates? (Amy) * Focal Plane * current baseline: multi-chroic TES; anyone interested in developing other options so that we can point to concrete alternatives (e.g. KIDs)? {{::2017_bjohnson_ltd17.pdf|multi-chroic MKIDs}} * Questions for the baseline (Jeff, Roger) * what is the plan for detector technology for the high frequency bands of the imager? * absorber coupled above 660 GHz, conservative default * Nb-nitride or similar material to enable use of the same pixel architecture at higher frequencies, requires development * are the distribution of colors for pixels as described by the worksheet reasonable? {{::banddefinitionsv2.1.xlsx|Band Definitions worksheet as of 2017-07-31}} * yes, from a technological stand point * are the bandwidths assumed reasonable? * 2.2:1 is constant with horn and antenna coupled * more bands could likely fit in the low frequency horns * we may be space limited at the high frequencies, that could drive us to 2 bands at lower frequencies than assumed, however this depends on the pixel size. * what should we assume about beam sizes as a function of frequency, specifically for the high frequency bands? Is it reasonable to assume single mode coupling all the way to the highest frequencies? * we can assume it scales as lambda / D __Actions:__ * UMN, investigate DLFOV trade-off between crossed and open dragone * Amy, determine cost difference for larger mirrors * Brad, determine sidelobe analysis done for EPIC. How was galaxy contamination accounted for. * Amy, find if anyone at JPL to run GRASP analysis. * Amy, begin a matrix of possible science outputs. __Notes:__ Attending: Jeff, Mike, Jamie, Julian, Shaul, Karl, Qi, Amy, Roger, ?? Optics * Packing the open dragone. The focal plane can be placed near the bus at 2-3 degree penalty in alpha. * Ray trace of possible sidelobes * cross dragone has clipping sidelobe as discussed previously * open dragone has no similar sidelobe. Is straightforward to baffle. * comparison of DLFOV * when scaled by F*lambda open Dragone gives ~60% of the focal plane diameter of the crossed * however crossed will require larger pixels (large edge taper) to control sidelobes, while open can have small pixels (low edge taper) since sidelobes are controlled by baffling. * **UMN** to further investigate DLFOV trade-off between the systems * Goal of settling on system in 3-4 weeks. **Amy** to look into cost difference for larger physical mirrors in the open dragone case. * Physical optics analysis: * Brad can run GRASP once a system is designed. * For EPIC GRASP simulations were convolved with galaxy map to get polarization leakage. * **Brad** will continue investigating details of what was done. * Julian can also run full time domain simulations if/when needed. * JPL has a GRASP license. **Amy** checking for person to run analysis. Scan * Julian points to work done for LiteBIRD({{::litebird_toast_20170123.pdf|LiteBIRD Scan Internal Memo}}) and CORE (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1707.04224.pdf). * LiteBIRD looked at full focal plane and assessed uniformity of coverage, angle of attack of each pixel, beam distortion from spin and precession speeds, ability to calibrate on dipole. * saw broad minimum in coverage uniformity for alpha = 25-65 deg. * narrower range where dipole signal is strong for all scans. * condition is good with and without HWP (for full focal plane) * CORE looked at single detector maps to asses ability to control systematics. * further constraints on CMBP scans need our own simulation. The machinery for this exists. * Decision to take alpha + beta = 95 deg as the standard for now, no reason for 100 deg. Focal Plane * delayed to next week due to time. * one key question is the need to go to 800 GHz. * needs input from Galactic science group * **Amy** will start a matrix of science outputs to help communicate between science goals and design trade-offs.