====== Telecon 20180131 ====== Attending: Brian, Julian, Hannes, Amy, Tom, Kris, Shaul, Karl, Qi, Roger, Graca Notes by : Karl/Qi \\ === Agenda=== * {{::teamxsummary.pdf|Preparing the next Teamx-I}} * Report about systematics work (delayed to next week) * Cleaned up focal plane {{::focalplane_update_20180131.pdf|version 4}} * GRASP {{::bjohnson_01.24.17.pdf| status}} === Notes === Preparing the next Teamx-I -- By learning from previous one. * response from TeamX, 90 slides on sub-systems. * Section summaries in presentation. No cost discussion today. 15 pages in each sub-system. * Need to do homework on some items before next TeamX * Systems: * I&T will be analyzed in next teamX, was not analyzed here. Still marked as weakness due to complexity. * telescope systems at various temperatures (40 K, 4 K, 100 mK) make testing the end to end alignment challenging. * Will continue discussion with Bill J. and Tomo next week. * Definition: OGSE, optical ground support equipment. Testing equipment that doesn't fly. * Future threats: add “cost of cooler” Comments: this is a cost threat more than a technology threat * FP and detectors * Str: TES have ground based heritage. detector 1/f shown to be acceptable. future options for MKIDS. * Roger will lead 1/f story for final report. Tomasso is running gain variation and per rotation calibration options (assuming 10 mHz 1/f knee) * General comment: detector 1/f isn't the only important 1/f term. Other issues (temperature stability) may dominate. * Only modulation is sky rotation and scan speed. * Weak + future threat: Impact of cosmic rays. * Jeff Fillipini has looked into this. As has Roger. Roger will lead report summary. * Work to reduce impact is also being done at Berkeley. * Hannes: What about optical coupling? * This hasn't been finalized. Roger: coupling via lenslets hasn't been shown at high frequencies. * Electronics * Weak: Temperature limits. * TeamX assumed what is currently used. but would used space qualified electronics, so this won't be an issue * Amy: TeamX usually gives reports to science teams, not reviewers. Amy is talking with TeamX/NASA to point out that reports need to be crafted so a general review audience understands the issues. Easily address comments like this risk getting blown out of porportion. * Optics: * Weakness: maturity of mechanical and thermal design of focal plane. * this work is in progress for next TeamX * Thermal: * 3HE, testing for MIRI was expensive. even if those tests done for PICO, < $1M so ignore it. * Cost is large. $900M for cooling, 50% of instrument cost. This is largest thermal risk point. * Mechanical: * Strength: scalable, simple, nothing radical * Weakness: optics alignment complex. * Address by pointing out WMAP and Planck have done this successfully, should not be weakness, will address in next TeamX * Configuration * Threat: No volume margin for primary mirror inside the shade * Shaul: this is being worked on, should have some margin by next TeamX Focal Plane V4 (Karl) * simpler focal plane, 2 wafer sizes. * roughly 1000 more detectors at high frequency. Sensitivity same. (0.61 uK vs 0.62) * FP could go further out in X, * Current reflectors need to be larger if we increase focal plane; but we can increase focal plane with current strehl limits. * Central wafer issues: * multi- and mono band pixels coexist * insufficient bond pads for number of bolos on this wafer. * 4000 bolos on 4" wafer. Hannes: fit ~2000 bolos on 6" wafer in past. * We are assuming 100 um per bond pad. 4 inch wafer. * 2 mm between tiles, may be too small. For EBEX, ~5 mm. **Karl** to check * Roger to get spacing number from recent BICEP arrays * Kris: We need to think about how pixels are aligned to scan direction and how this impacts map making. * are we making single detector maps? multi detector maps? do pixels need to follow the same path on the sky as a neighbor? * This may require slight rotations of the focal plain.