====== 20170517 Telecon Notes ====== Legend: **Bold face** encodes 'need more information'; //italics// encodes issues that are (semi)settled in the sense that they are the basis for future discussions; __Underlined Text__ are action items. Attending: Shaul, Julian, Amy, Brendan, Jamie, Al, Lloyd, Charles, Mark (Notes by Julian) NASA Probe PI kick-off telecon: anything we want to add/ask? * Technology * Shaul: How do we estimate the cost of technology that will mature in the near future? * Team X design process * Shaul: how much is available, can we iterate? * Jamie: need a sufficiently mature concept to make Team X process most effective; can start a coarse/piecewise process before full end-to-end session; can pay for 1 person’s time rather than a full team; * Charles: no fixed cost for Team X - iterate with Team X on cost/process; is the budget overall or per probe? * Amy: from Keith, 2 instrument sessions + 1 mission session; ultimately 1 detailed design study (by us, fleshing out Team X mission session) * Preliminary meeting to set up plan * Instrument session is a unique unit; process of in-person meetings & independent effort report writing * If we just have 1 instrument, maybe 1 can be used for eg. cryogenics * need to decide on instrument(s) - imager, spectrometer, both ... * Mission session is group activity after instrument sessions * All probes have the same budget, process adapts to individual need * Jamie: process is flexible - ask for what makes most sense for us; big question is the budget! Pertinent question for NASA telecon. * Shaul: what is cost equivalent of 2 instrument + 1 mission studies * Charles: mission study can be 1 to many days; roughly $30,000/day * Teams: * Team X - instrument team (engineers) * Team X - mission team (somewhat broader) * A Team - brainstorming session to solve particular problem ((case-specific experts); we’re fairly mature, don’t want/need open-ended brainstorming but may use for specific target questions (branch points) * Jamie: Reports & Outreach plans? Special session at AAS - anything more? post-report Outreach? * When do we go to Team X - early (10-11/17) or late (1-3/18). Early implies significant decisions this summer * Charles: the further along we are the better - things Team X can’t help with (simulations) must be done first. * Jamie: timing of money? Amy: should be available in late ’17, but it’s Keith’s money to manage. * Shaul: No advantage to going early. No argument with that! * Resolution/Delensing sigma(r=0) for f_sky=0.5, l_min = 2, 20, tau=0.06, white noise = 0.5, 1.0, 2.0 uK-arcmin Reionization bump is a big advantage Trade-off between noise and resolution (smaller beam/more noise vs larger beam/lower noise) Doubling noise & beam is about flat; what is the cost trade-off? At 0.5 uK-arcmin going from 1.2m to 1.4m only improves sigma by 25% 2uK-arcmin is almost flat; resolution doesn’t help Resolution => mode-sensitivity; dominated by E/B; want to reach l~500 in E Comparable S4 effort in progress * PCOS Technology Needs: * Influences SAT call for March 18; funding in FY19. * 3 CMB-related areas already being tracked * mm-wave focal plane arrays for CMB polarimetry * mm-wave optical elements * high-efficiency cryogenics: 20K => <1K * Jamie: PCOS program can only fund ~6 things - ranking guidance given by PAGs; PhysPAG rolled things into broad areas to improve priority ranking. Ranked < 10 *very* unlikely to be funded. PhysPAG members: Ed Wollack, Amber Miller. * Previously “advanced focal planes” (driven by IR multiplexing) was separate, but it has merged into general FP. * Charles: Is “mm” too restrictive? Formally 30-300GHz (Jamie says 30-600MHz is quoted) - maybe push down to 10GHz? * Julian: Software not covered by SAT (from Rita)