====== Telecon Notes 20180207 ======

Attendance: Lloyd, Julian, Amy, Shaul, Dan, Nick, Dave, Hannes


Notes by:  Karl \\

=== Agenda:===

  * May Workshop
    * {{https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kIxWWhZd0Kv-Nt9KnJ-9YyNdxTt8SMUxaMoF6-QWgZU/edit#gid=529735521|google sheet with some program suggestions}}

=== Notes ===

May workshop:
  * program sheet cleaned up
  * added: neutrinos, primordial mag fields (place holder for additional fundamental physics)
  * Dan: Panel about session at end of fundamental physics?
    * Shaul: red section. Whatever we or moderator decide to do.  Format is open.
    * Dan: part of the issue is what targets is PICO best suited to.  Discussion to pull out ideas of good targets would be useful.
    * Lloyd: Good idea.  Mark Kowalski to moderate this?  Or someone younger?
      * Shaul: Lloyd could?  LK: but drawing others in is better.
      * Dan: Joel Meyers could moderate. Or Jens? (he was more spectrometer). Someone with broad experience and without a horse in the race would be good.
      * Lloyd: Can we invite a handful of people?
        * Dan: Sure, will work with Raphael and make a list. People for a panel.
        * Rob Cauldwell
  * Extragalactic science. thoughts?
    * Nick: short intro talk to put in context?
    * Shaul: Sure.  Who to talk?  Nick: I could do this instead. And set connection to S3/S4.
    * Lloyd: Agree. And get new person for thermodynamic processes talk?
      * Nick: yes. or replace with SZ talk. (Jim Bartlett possible person) Probing CGM with SZ.  Similar in that still measuring pressure and density of galaxies.
    * Shaul: looks good, slots filled.  What about discussion time?
      * Nick: Depends on goal of discussion.  If about report we should have PICO people. If looking for new idea then go outside PICO.
      * Shaul: more enthusiastic about open ended. Opportunity to get new ideas.
      * Nick: Names, Elliot Quatris, Aaron Parsens (21cm), Martin White or Uros ?? (high ell). These are senior people.  Andrian Liu more junior.  Steve Firlineto, Marcel, Colin H., Lindsey Glean
  * Shaul: General question.  Pick mod + panel (more official) or invite these people and just have them present (less formal).
    * Lloyd: More formal gets more input out of people. Dan: Asking people to think outside what they normally do. Since asking for work, nice to give them a title/position.  Less formal is harder to get people to prepare.
    * Shaul: So need to converge on list of 4-5 names for each panel. **Dan/Raphael/Lloyd (Fundamental), Nick/Lloyd (EG science)
  * Galactic science
    * Dave: Looks reasonable. Depends on availability of course.
    * Shaul: What about panel names? and structure
      * Dave: Terry Jones is local. Will consider. **Dave to think of names with Laura, 1 week timescale**
      * Shaul: Maybe names like Giles, Darren who have been interested but busy.
  * Technology/Systematics
    * Combined these too.  Would discuss the Systematics group's primary issues they identified. 3 issues were flagged.
    * Technology talks reasonable?
    * Hannes: Looks fine to me.
    * **Shaul/Hannes** will designate moderator and panel.  They have some names already. Work with Brendan.
  * Last 1/2 day.  This may be too long. Opinions?
    * Nick: vote for 2 days. Would have to leave early if 2.5 days.
    * Shaul: we'll see what fills this, how important it is.
    * Foregrounds, still watching the group's work develop. Then this will be more clear.
    * Post foregrounds, Everything Shaul removed from earlier in program.
      * removed S4, balloons, LiteBIRD
      * anything about how to connect to decadal?
      * Lloyd: Do we need to discuss connection to decadal?
        * Shaul: Do we have space or mandate to discuss connection to other issues (for decadal) in NASA report?
        * Shaul: Could do 2nd white paper for decadal.  Maybe a discussion on this is useful to decide exactly that. What is useful in addition to NASA report.
          * Last decade's report did discuss TD, balloons, much more comprehensive view.  Was 2 reports, ~100 page EPIC plus 25 page community plan.
        * Lloyd: even in report there are some connections to ground. at least "what can't be done"
        * Shaul: So discussion of what to include in report in terms of what requires space and what doesn't?
          * Lloyd: yes, that's the suggestion. Shaul: makes sense, and needs to be addressed in report. So discussion makes sense.
        * Shaul: Probably need a panel of 3-4 to lead this.  
          * Dan: Names?
          * Shaul: John Carlstrom (S4), Lyman Page, Scott Dodalson (slight outsider, science crossover useful), Bill Jones
          * Lloyd: Experimentalists best. John Rule ??.  Shaul moderates? (Shaul: can, but anyone mentioned could.)
          * Julian: Susanne (S4 and SO), Joe Dunkley (science crossover)
        * Will schedule this for ~1.5 hours.
  * Anything missing?
    * LiteBIRD? Spectrometer? Shaul: Don't seem critical.
      * Lloyd: agree, won't help write report.
  * Lloyd: Lost Marilena for neutrinos.  Dan/Lloyd: replace with Joel Meyer
  * Julian: Our gender balance is (unsurprisingly) poor.
  * Shaul: Invitations can start going out.  Put online once there are verifications.