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imagerteleconnotes20170828 [2017/08/28 12:44] – created hananyimagerteleconnotes20170828 [2017/09/11 14:28] (current) kyoung
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 __Agenda:__  __Agenda:__ 
   * {{::probeimager_whereweare_20170828.pdf|Where we are (Shaul)}}   * {{::probeimager_whereweare_20170828.pdf|Where we are (Shaul)}}
-  * Scan Angles (Kris) +  * {{::scan_bore73_prec22.pdf|Scan Angles (Kris)}} 
-  * Noise model (Karl)+  * Noise model {{::pico_fdm_noise_predictions_20170828.pdf|Noise model status}}(Karl)
  
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 +__Notes:__
 + Attending: Shaul, Amy, Brian, Kris, Julian, Karl, Qi, Brad, Roger, Jacques, Bill
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 + pre meeting comments:
 +   * Roger working on getting FDM power consumption and 1/f characteristics from Matt Dobbs.
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 + Current status (Shaul)
 +   * flow chart indicates various areas of work and 
 +   * Preliminary, to see where we are and illustrate how different parts interact
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 + Noise Model (Karl)
 +   * White noise level only.
 +   * NEPs and NET have been calculated
 +   * Readout was from EBEX, more information of readout system is needed for estimation of noise in near future
 +   * Photon correlation noise = 1
 +      - probably needs to be investigated
 +      - different for space and ground-based missions
 +   * Thermal power law index n: 2 is more proper
 +   * Zodiacal light might be included
 +      - negligible in terms of loading from simulation (Jacques)
 +      - galaxy also negligible in terms of loading
 +   * 10 ms bolo time constant does NOT matter here
 +   * P_readout > P_photon at lowest bands near 20 GHz
 +   * Next steps: 
 +     - go from single detector —> multi-chroic —> full focal plane
 +     - Roger to use his model to calculate noise and cross check on 1 week timescale
 +   * 1 / f needs to be modeled as well
 +     - Roger will lead collection of information, check in at 2 weeks.
 +     - Julian has machinery to simulate given a noise spectrum.
 +   * correlated noise will need more inputs
 +      - data from Plank for satellite related issues
 +      - data from SPT, BICEP, etc for crosstalk numbers.
 +   * for TDM capacitance of wiring is critical to limit noise
 +      - what are key points for FDM?
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 + Scanning (Kris)
 +   * basic model of single pixel with completely smooth scan.
 +   * ability to reconstruct polarization maps looks reasonable, but Kris not convinced
 +      - more complete models with multiple detectors, and a plan for how to combine them is needed.
 +      - some of the has been done for CORE and LightBIRD.
 +      - Kris to look into these papers
 +      - Jacques to ask European community what they can contribute and what time availability they have. ETA 1 week.
 +      - Kris-Jacques will meet Sept. 18-19 to discuss face-to-face.
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