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====== Telecon 20171010 ====== | ====== Telecon 20171010 ====== | ||
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__Agenda: | __Agenda: | ||
- | * optical systems: large aperture and small aperture options (Qi) | + | |
- | * noise model and focal plane options (for large and small apertures) (Young) | + | |
+ | * noise model and focal plane options (for large and small apertures) (Young) | ||
* Scan pattern (Gorski, Delabrouille) | * Scan pattern (Gorski, Delabrouille) | ||
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+ | __Notes:__ | ||
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+ | Status of optics (Shaul) | ||
+ | * Matrix of larg v. small and open v. crossed. | ||
+ | * large, open is baseline. | ||
+ | * current version is un-optimized optics. | ||
+ | * small open and crossed designs work. Noise is calculated. | ||
+ | * What alpha, beta angles are allowed? | ||
+ | * Motivation is to have a cost savings option | ||
+ | * Question from group: Does cost truly scales with aperture? Or is complexity the bigger issue. | ||
+ | * focal plane size, detector count, readout and power demands, etc. likely bigger driver. | ||
+ | * Suggested: Are there other rocket options? If the payload is smaller this could be a savings location. | ||
+ | * Likely that Falcon 9 is only choice. | ||
+ | * large, crossed dragone still has sidelobe problems. | ||
+ | * Note: Al says PIXIE can observe with same scan strategy as imager. | ||
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+ | 50 cm systems (Karl/Qi) | ||
+ | * 3x hit in resolution | ||
+ | * 4 K and 30 K systems. | ||
+ | * 4 K gives better performance than baseline at high frequencies, | ||
+ | * 30 K is worse at all frequencies. | ||
+ | * Is > 300 GHz sensitivity very useful? | ||
+ | * May not increase dust removal accuracy much. | ||
+ | * High frequencies are largely for extra-galactic science and galactic dust science. | ||
+ | * The 3x lower resolution may make these unappealing anyway. | ||
+ | * General opinion that the resolution loss is a high price to pay. | ||
+ | * Makes the science less appealing. | ||
+ | * open dragones (30 K and 4 K) are smaller and fewer pixels than baseline. | ||
+ | * likely a cost savings. | ||
+ | * 4 K assumes cooling an additional ~1m mirror, which adds cost. | ||
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+ | Scan (Kris) | ||
+ | * Higher spin rates a concern. Data rate may become an issue. | ||
+ | * Past work by Amy said telemetry not an issue. | ||
+ | * possible spin rates in the 1-3 RPM range. | ||
+ | * needed for 1/f, data rate, ect. | ||
+ | * **Kris** to present concerns with scan next week. | ||
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