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 ====== Telecon 20171010 ====== ====== Telecon 20171010 ======
  
-Attending:  \\+Attending:  Jamie, Brian, Julian, Kris, Shaul, Karl, Qi, Roger, Jeff F.
  
 __Agenda:__  __Agenda:__ 
  
-  * optical systems: large aperture and small aperture options (Qi) +  * {{:large_and_small_apertures_20171010.pdf|Large and small aperture presentation}} 
-  * noise model and focal plane options (for large and small apertures) (Young)+    * optical systems: large aperture and small aperture options (Qi) 
 +    * noise model and focal plane options (for large and small apertures) (Young)
   * Scan pattern (Gorski, Delabrouille)   * Scan pattern (Gorski, Delabrouille)
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 +__Notes:__
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 +Status of optics (Shaul)
 +  * Matrix of larg v. small and open v. crossed.
 +    * large, open is baseline.  Noise, weights, etc calculated and posted on Imager wiki page
 +      * current version is un-optimized optics.  **A/I** UMN to use coma corrected and optimized open dragone. Recalculate noise.
 +    * small open and crossed designs work. Noise is calculated.
 +      * What alpha, beta angles are allowed?  **A/I** UMN to investigate.
 +      * Motivation is to have a cost savings option
 +        * Question from group: Does cost truly scales with aperture? Or is complexity the bigger issue.
 +          * focal plane size, detector count, readout and power demands, etc. likely bigger driver.
 +          * Suggested: Are there other rocket options? If the payload is smaller this could be a savings location.
 +            * Likely that Falcon 9 is only choice.
 +    * large, crossed dragone still has sidelobe problems.  1.2m version is promising.  A work in progress.
 +  * Note: Al says PIXIE can observe with same scan strategy as imager.  Kris would like to see the details of how this works.
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 +50 cm systems (Karl/Qi)
 +  * 3x hit in resolution
 +  * 4 K and 30 K systems.
 +  * 4 K gives better performance than baseline at high frequencies, ~> 300 GHz.
 +  * 30 K is worse at all frequencies.
 +  * Is > 300 GHz sensitivity very useful?
 +    * May not increase dust removal accuracy much.
 +    * High frequencies are largely for extra-galactic science and galactic dust science.
 +      * The 3x lower resolution may make these unappealing anyway.
 +        * General opinion that the resolution loss is a high price to pay.  
 +        * Makes the science less appealing.  This makes it less likely to appeal to Decadal Panel
 +  * open dragones (30 K and 4 K) are smaller and fewer pixels than baseline.
 +    * likely a cost savings.
 +    * 4 K assumes cooling an additional ~1m mirror, which adds cost.
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 +Scan (Kris)
 +  * Higher spin rates a concern. Data rate may become an issue.
 +    * Past work by Amy said telemetry not an issue.  May need to be revisited.
 +  * possible spin rates in the 1-3 RPM range.  Being studied at JPL, Amy organizing.
 +    * needed for 1/f, data rate, ect.
 +  * **Kris** to present concerns with scan next week.
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