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 ====== Telecon 20171031 ====== ====== Telecon 20171031 ======
  
-Attending: +Attending:  Brian, Shaul, Karl, Brendon, Qi, Joy, Al, Jamie
  
 __Agenda:__  __Agenda:__ 
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 === Notes === === Notes ===
  
-Atd:+Higher throughput, lower noise optics and focal plane (Young) 
 +  * correcting optics for coma 
 +  * get to 7350 bolos or 15030 bolos (depends on pixel size and edge taper) 
 +  * pixel size set by middle band or lowest band. 
 +    * middle band gives smaller pixels, worse spillover efficiency. 
 +    * Brendonfar sidelobes a systematic concern.  Can we estimate what these might be? 
 +  * alternative pixel band structure (slide 5) 
 +    * reduces spillover variance within a pixel.  Not clear this is a major problem. 
 +    * NET penalty, narrow bands to avoid overlap. 
 +      * Jamie: not clear that overlap is a problem.  As long as band shapes are known. 
 +    * Jamie: what does single band pixels look like?  Fewer broad bands. 
 +      * **A/I** Karl to check. 
 +  * Technical or science issues with alternative band structure?  
 +    * nothing from people currently.   
 + 
 +Scan optimization + simulations (Kris presentation by Shaul) 
 +  * single detector, alpha = 22, beta = 75 
 +  * was at 3 rpm spin, now 1 rpm spin, varying precessions 
 +  * suggests precession < 10 hrs 
 +  * alpha, beta dictate large scale features 
 +  * Zoom on N_obs panel, shows striping at < 12 hours. 
 +  * Jamie: pixelization effects? are there gaps in scan on small scales?  Shaul: plan to do detailed scans next, w/Julian. 
 +  * rings on sky in 1 day, full maps per detector in 6 months. 
 +  * Jamie: thinks no resource problems with fast precession.  
 +    * Still need check with Amy. 
 +  * Aside: Brendon, adding reaction wheels to systematics. Can have vibrations. 
 +    * Jamie: Can have 'momentum wheel' to balance total spacecraft momentum and take load off reaction wheels. 
 + 
 +Systematics, simulations, noise: 
 +  * How to combine systematics and imager work? 
 +  * Brendon: Systematics WG has list of systematics and risk level for each.  Goal to prioritize systematics. 
 +    * table on wiki. SRF rating of 5 is worst. 
 +    * Most worried:  Far sidelobes, gain stability, pol angle calibration. 
 +      * combination of we know least about it, drives instrument design, or limited past experiments 
 +    * others also, but more confident they can be dealt with. 
 +    * WG has found simulation capability, e.g. TOAST.   
 +      * Shaul: TOAST was plan to simulate noise + scan. 
 +      * systematics can be added here as well.  Work done for LITEBird, CORE. 
 +      * example: adding far sidelobes is straightforward 
 +      * T-->P leakage sim by CORE.   
 +        * QuickPol looks at main beam mismatch. 
 +        * bandpass mismatch (Ranajoy) 
 +        * in CORE systematics paper.  They are able and interested. 
 +    * Joy: many simulations give you large values for systematics, but they will be partially removed by analysis.  This needs to be considered.  Brendon: Yes, TOAST has this type of analysis tool built in.  Needs to be kept in mind. 
 +  * Jamie: Good approach. Don't worry about everything, priortize based on Planck, CORE, LITEBird work. 
 +  * Shaul: Goal, get inputs systematics group needs.  
 +    * far sidelobes, working on input via Brad and Amy 
 +    * polarization calibration inaccuracies:  Initial calibration.  Errors on calibration. Dependence on spectrum used to calibrate, or dependence on source observed 
 +      * no solid calibration plan yet, so key errors not yet known or quantified. (not ready for simulation) 
 +    * gain stability: ability to continuously measure gain.  4 yr calibration on dipole is great. But can't see dipole constantly (scan strategy input). CORE folks have worked on this, Tomassi volunteered but not until January.   
 +      * Joy: need instrument inputs on gain stabiliy (bath, temperature variation, etc.) 
 +        * can simulate observation, calibration on dipole with scan, quantify how well this can be done. 
 +      * Jamie: can this simulate deprojection? It is very useful.  Brendon: Planck had dipole S/N > degree scale S/N, so not useful.  Could be better this time around. 
 +         * not clear this capability exists. 
 +  * Brendon, Shaul, Joy to meet this week and coordinate on systematics plan. 
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