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 ====== Telecon 20171212 ====== ====== Telecon 20171212 ======
  
-Attending:+Attending: Tom, Joy, Brian, Shaul, Karl, Qi, Toki, Jeff, Julian, Al, Jacques
  
 Notes by : Karl \\ Notes by : Karl \\
  
 === Agenda=== === Agenda===
 +  * No telecon next week 
   * Preparations for TeamX (JPL + UMN, led by Brian/Amy)   * Preparations for TeamX (JPL + UMN, led by Brian/Amy)
-  * Cosmic Rays (Jeff Filippini) +  * Cosmic Rays (Jeff Filippini) [[http://indico.ipmu.jp/indico/event/143/session/3/contribution/51|B-mode from Space slides]] 
-  * GRASP (Brad Johnson  +  * GRASP (Brad) 
-  * Focal plane model V3.0 (Young)+  * {{::focalplane_update_20171212.pdf|Focal plane modelV3.0}} (Young)
  
 === Notes:=== === Notes:===
 +
 +No telecon next week (TeamX meeting)
 +
 +Preparations for TeamX (JPL + UMN, led by Brian/Amy)
 +  * Brian making a list of files TeamX needs.
 +    * CodeV files.  .seq files.
 +      * prep a 1.6 m and 1.2 m versions.  **UMN**
 +      * 1.4 m with coma-correction and without.  **UMN**
 +    * Kevin's current thermal model
 +    * Will get files/numbers from Roger. In email to Shaul: 0.8 uW on 100 mK, 1.8 uW on 350 mK. for TDM.
 +      * Shaul will ensure Roger has a wire count for FDM.
 +    * Cryogenics, ADR cooling power 10 uW. Kevin made a model that works for this.
 +    * Roger estimated FP mass, for 12-15k detectors estimate 7-8 kg.
 +      * in EPIC-IM a 1.5 m focal plane was 26 kg.
 +      * Core had similar focal plane size with waveguides and was 8 kg.
 +
 +Cosmic Rays (Jeff Filippini) B-mode from Space slides
 +  * first 2-3 slides are intro to problem.  Rest are data from SPIDER
 +  * Antarctic balloons good approximation of space at L2
 +  * impact rate set by area, deposition energy set by thickness.
 +  * Planck issue was wafer hits. long time constant (seconds) and high rate (few Hz)
 +  * new space mission, wafers hit at 100 Hz. need short time constants. need bolometers unresponsive to cosmic ray hits on wafers.
 +    * should be able to absorb ballistic phonons and cool to thermal if wafer is coated in a superconductor (or normal metal).
 +    * then heatsink wafer well.
 +  * if crosstalk of cosmic ray hits is nonlinear.  Could be issues.  increases the effective rate.
 +  * consider hits to readout electronics as well.  LC resonators could shift. SQUIDs respond. etc.
 +  * Shaul: anyone planning to test this? like the phonon down-conversion?
 +    * Jeff yes, in progess. and Berkeley is also testing this month.
 +  * SPIDER data. low coincidence rate, so no long distance propogation across wafer.
 +    * in lab tests see ~ 8 ms time constants. See saturated TES at high energies.
 +    * saw 'step' glitches. example of a weird thing. steps of 1 flux quantum.  Large cosmic ray causes SQUID to lose lock on rising edge.  Specific to TDM. Can be avoided in design.
 +      * Think about what readout does when large energy depositions.
 +  * Jeff: No evidence for bolometer response to cosmic rays hitting wafer.  Good sign, likely to avoid Planck's problem.
 +  * Shaul: what are 1st priorities to look for in EBEX data?
 +    * Jeff: Coincidence is good.
 +  * Shaul: Why does SPIDER see no long glitches?
 +    * Jeff: Better heat sinking. easier at 300 mK. 
 +  * Shaul: 100 mK measurements would be nice.  Really show the problem or not.
 +    * Jeff: 100 mK is planned at JPL.
 +
 +GRASP (Brad)
 +  * Running, but Brad can't attend so topic delayed to next telecon.
 +
 +Focal plane model, V3.0 (Young)
 +  * Focal plane with pixels and hexagonal wafers is laid out.
 +  * New sensitivity is 0.62 uK arcmin.
 +  * Version posted on wiki.
 +  * Toki: are all arrays < 150 mm wafer?  Karl: yes.
  
  
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