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imagerteleconnotes20180124 [2018/01/24 09:35] – created kyoungimagerteleconnotes20180124 [2018/02/01 11:29] (current) bcrill
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 === Agenda=== === Agenda===
  
-  * GRASP status (Karl, Brad+  * {{::telescopei_t_v002_20171212_s.pdf|Telescope I+T}} (Tomo
-    * {{::bjohnson_01.24.17.pdf|Current analysis}}+  * {{::bjohnson_01.24.17.pdf|GRASP status}} (Karl, Brad)
   * Attitude control requirements   * Attitude control requirements
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 +^       ^ Pointing Knowledge  ^ Pointing Control  ^ Pointing Stability  ^
 +|        (arcsec)            (arcsec)          (arcsec/sec)       |
 +| EPIC  | <35 (3 sigma)        3600 (3 sigma)    45/0.05            |
 +| CORE  |  1 (1 sigma)        |  24                ?                  |
 +| PICO  |  6 (1 sigma)        |  3600 (3 sigma)    ?                  |
  
  
 === Notes:=== === Notes:===
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 +Notes:
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 +Attitude control
 +  * Shaul: Pointing Control is how well spacecraft points at a direction; Pointing Knowledge is how well we know where it points at; Pointing stability is how stable pointing is in terms of changing rate.
 +  * Ben: thinking about map to understand definitions of pointing knowledge, control and stability; that's how engineers talk about them.
 +  * PICO rquires 6 arcsec pointing knowledge, which about 1/10 of the smallest beam.
 +  * Shaul thinks we do not need more than 1 degree of pointing control.
 +  * Bill: pointing stability is associated with spin; we may also think about how stable spin axis is aligned with star camera.
 +  * Bill: points out having 2 or more scan modes would have been very helpful for Planck. Break time constant and beam shape degeneracies. Shaul: right now we fix on having only 1 scan strategy, but it can be discussed.
 +  * Jacques: 3 star sensors garuntees 1'' pointing knowledge. This is the easiest and likely to be reasonable in cost.  Worth just using 3.
 +  * Jacques: Thoughts from CORE,
 +  * Pointing control is to eliminate gaps in map. 24'' ensures no gaps in single detector maps.
 +  * 24'' was technically doable for Core with reaction wheels.  Should check if that is true for PICO, if the engineers don't scream, then stop worrying about it.
 +  * Shaul: reaction wheels are current assumption for PICO
 +  * **A/I** Shaul to check with Amy about 24'' control with wheels.
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 +  * Additional note from Brendan: Planck achieved 2 arcsecond rms pointing reconstruction [[https://wiki.cosmos.esa.int/planckpla2015/index.php/Detector_pointing|(see Planck Explanatory Supplement)]]
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 +I + T, lessons from Planck, options for PICO. (Tomo)
 +  * Plank tested mirrors + baffles, then focal plane and feeds separately
 +  * example of parameters that need to be tested in presentation page 5 
 +  * tests at component and subsystem levels.
 +    * feed beam patterns not tested cold 
 +  * Jacques: Primary, secondary at different temperatures. difficult to test this on ground. Alignment may create issues.
 +  * Planck cold system test at CSR. Signal response test, but no beam mapping.
 +  * Photogrammetry of full structure to measure alignment, and align system.  Was costly for Planck, facility needed to be adapated.
 +  * 10 um interferometry of planck mirrors.
 +    * optics needed to be sufficiently polished for this test. may need to 'overbuild' mirrors.
 +    * also consider mirror material in cost, planck was CFRP.
 +  * focal plane testing at Saturne. criteria tested on page 13.
 +  * Comments for PICO:
 +    * page 16-17, cost drivers. 3 cyrostats (all large), plus full satellite sized chamber to test full system (cooling, etc.)
 +      * cold testing drives cost, dependent on availible facilities, dependent on what is characterized in flight vs on ground
 +    * page 19, calibrations done for Planck shown. 
 +      * spectral response not fully measured on ground, can't be sense 
 +    * Shaul: has Planck over tested or under tested any optics?
 +      * Bill: most valuable was cold photogrammetry of flight optics. Other tests were of interest, but not as critical.
 +      * Mirror material?  Bill: Silicon carbide, lower mass solution than aluminum. Jacques: Core proposal used silicon carbide, but now in doubt. carbide is expensive, machining challenge, large thermal contraction.  Aluminum is cheaper, easier.
 +        * Shaul: TeamX assumed aluminum mirrors. Silicon carbide may over run cost.  Aluminum below $10M.
 +  * Discussion on hold until next week due to time.
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