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Telecon Notes Sep 12, 2018

Attendance: Amy, Kris, Roger, Shaul, Karl, Qi

Regrets:

Agenda

  • Science descopes (Shaul, Amy)
  • Technology descopes (Shaul, Amy, Roger)
  • Technology implementation plan (Roger)

Notes

PICO imager telecon - 09/12/2018

Technology descopes

  • To specify potential descopes we can see
  • Roger: not sure whether technology descopes are technology driven, whether the technology maturation is the right place for them
  • Amy: there are different descops, only tech descopes be in tech section
  • Shaul: science descopes and techo descopes; tech descopes is about ready/not-ready technology; science is about science goals
  • Potential tech descopes (Roger):
    • 1) high-freq detectors; 2) multi-chroic; 3) readout
      • 3) readout is straightforward, don't suggest it to be challenging
      • 1) high-freq detetors
        • Shaul: not sure if high-freq is challenging
        • Roger: agree that it’s not a challenge
        • Shaul: it could be a science descope
        • Amy: risk matrix; two dimensions: one is risk being relized, another is consequences;
        • Shaul: removing high-v is not just affecting galaxy science, they might affect foreground, they are necessary from some studies; it’s debatable if we decrease number of pixels on the focal plane but keep bands, or simply remove some bands
        • Shaul: we can be very open, “at the moment, we don’t know; at phase A, we will know; there will be more knowledge about foreground available”
        • Amy: comment, removing high-v bands does not save a lot of money though
      • 2) multi-chroic
        • Roger: sinuous antenna, (Karl is taking notes…)
        • the number of bands is more restricted on the horns than antenna??
        • different edge tapers, is it acceptable? is it a bad idea?
        • Shaul: none of this is tech risks, they are systematic risks; there are experiments in near future; we are not seeing developing tech is risky
        • Roger: developing reliable tech
        • Shaul: it isn’t clear to me that the place to discuss that, do we discuss this in tech or systematics? it isn’t clear,
        • Roger: in terms of tech plans, people generalizsin,
        • Amy: we need to talk about if we don’t have three colors; how we distrubute, majority goes to systematics; we need to talk about the risk if we don’t have those 3-color, what would we do? For that descope option
        • Amy: descope, we could get 3-color, and therefore the solution is 2-color pixel, tech chapter or risk, not systematics; if we have 3-color, but systematics, that should be in systematics
        • Shaul: agree with; point out it will not be that we won’t have, it will be like we have those detectors, but systematics exceeds; if you have sensitivity, you can clean systematics. There are systematics, we will numerate these, and; these words should be in systematics
        • Amy: is there a reaslistic situation ,2022, 3-color, not make sense to fly 3-color?
        • Kris: ….(Karl?)
        • ??: if you have 3-color, is it possible to
        • Roger:
        • Shaul: we have not developed 2-color in most of our bands either
        • Roger: there is no concern on 2-color; there is concern on 3-color
        • Amy: with greater confidence to build 2-color
        • Shaul: this needs a significant amount of work
        • Amy: agree with Shaul that it’s a lot of work; being able to address risk of 3-color is maybe worthy
        • Shaul: how serious is this issue?
        • Shaul: agree that readout is not a challenge
        • Roger is still waiting for Hannes for some inputs
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