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 ====== Telecon Notes 20170524 ====== ====== Telecon Notes 20170524 ======
  
 +Attendance: Shaul, Amy, Jeff, Rafael, Al, Clem, Lloyd
 +Notes by Amy
 + 
 +**Probe PI telecom**: Slides 2-6 (was 70 slides in 2hr – only talking about most relevant topics here)
 +
 +Shaul adds: not expecting final designs or conclusions at AAS
 +Shaul has suggested to NASA that they also consider a 2019 AAS Session
 +Comment: Should have descopes/downscaling options thought out before going in to Team X so we can respond quickly if/when Team X finds our baseline design to be over cost
 + 
 +**Plan for Systematics**: Slide 7
 +
 +Shaul suggests that Brendan (Systematics Czar) starts thinking about this and making a plan for what to do.  How to introduce systematics in to pipeline.
 +Comment: since we are low budget, good to start with existing stuff, not duplicate effort
 +Comment (Clem): S4 plan at the moment is about setting requirements on what systematics need to be, which is different from saying what instrument will deliver.
 +Comments: For a number of systematics, hard to prove design will meet requirement.
 +Shaul: first thing to look at for Probe is requirements
 +Comments: Remember that the audience of this paper isn’t necessarily going to be interested in a highly detailed analysis of many systematics
 +Comment: What if systematics analysis impacts our decision on imager-only or imager+spectrometer?
 +Comment (Al): systematics for spectrometer are very different than those for an imager
 + 
 +**Plans for Technology**: Slide 8
 +
 +Shaul notes: (from PI telecom) these are not proposals for funding.  Should not assume there would be funding for any of the technologies that we put there.
 +Comments: Cost for space-qualified kilo-pixels arrays (and electronics…) are much larger than for ground – big cost multipliers – need to get our heads around what these cost multipliers are
 +Comments: We will need to lay out steps that need to be done to prep something for space – e.g. need to develop lower-power electronics, or do radiation testing
 +Comments: Should think twice before considering including two focal plane technologies in our proposed baseline – don’t want to raise red flags in cost and risk. Because this isn’t a proposal, we can afford to be conservative in our technologies.
 +Comment: KIDs haven’t flown on balloons, but BLAST will change that soon
 +Comment (Amy): Have some budget for Roger OBrient to support - survey tech options in detectors, optical coupling, readout, and current TRLs, etc.
 +Action item: Jeff, Amy, Roger, to talk to brainstorm a plan
 + 
 +**Imager / Frequency Bands**: Slides 9-10
 +
 +Shaul: It’s our understanding that LiteBIRD and CORE didn’t do detailed study to optimize what bands to use
 +Shaul: More information about this topic in Probe Mission Wiki (not exec committee) – under [[:imageroptions|Image Options]] working group 
 +Comment (Clem): Place to measure foregrounds may be close in (to foreground minimum) where differences in spectral indices matter less
 +Comment: Note angular resolution not as good at lower frequencies
 +Comment (Al): don’t want to know how well you do if foreground model is already known – want to know if your design will be able to tell you if your foreground model is off
 +Shaul: wants to proceed with a nominal focal plane so we can begin simulations
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