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| - | ==== Agenda May 26, 2015 ==== | + | ===== Agenda May 26, 2015 ===== |
| === Work Plan === | === Work Plan === | ||
| + | - Prepare a short paper outline which could be done by //-- insert date --// (determined by mid-decadal planning schedule) | ||
| + | * From Paul Hertz: The mid-decade review committee should be announced soon. They will be starting their work in June 2015 and delivering their report by the end of April 2016. | ||
| - Use the data already collected and mine it for some more specific questions and data-driven scenarios | - Use the data already collected and mine it for some more specific questions and data-driven scenarios | ||
| - | * Ted and Keivan present extensions to models of "time until proposal exhaustion" | + | * Ted and Keivan present extensions to models of "time until proposal exhaustion" |
| - | * What is an institutional review board and why do we need it? | + | - Submit a new survey |
| - | - Determine what information didn't make it into the original survey and incorporate it in the new one. | + | * Determine what information didn't make it into the original survey and incorporate it in the new one. Go over questions below today and create |
| - | * Go over questions below. Create | + | * Practical issues: Identify point people to coordinate with Joel and with the survey ideas group. |
| - | - Gather a larger data set and cover more agencies for the conditional and correlated information. | + | * What is an Institutional Review Board and why do we need one? |
| + | - Drill down and fill in the gaps on Agency Statistics | ||
| * Create subgroup to follow through on this. Agency liaison model. Report back to whole group. | * Create subgroup to follow through on this. Agency liaison model. Report back to whole group. | ||
| - | ==== Additional Information and references ==== | ||
| - | === Sample questions that go beyond the Von Hippel Survey === | ||
| - | = Important note: This list is far too long and we would clearly need to reduce the number of questions, | ||
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| - | == Answer these questions with a scale: | ||
| - | * How would the following actions by the funding agencies affect you? | ||
| - | * Limiting applicants to one PI or CoI proposal per year: | ||
| - | * would increase the time I could spend on my research | ||
| - | * would reduce my chances for tenure. | ||
| - | * would cause me to leave the field. | ||
| - | * would reduce the number of proposals I submit. | ||
| - | * would improve the quality of those proposals I submit | ||
| - | * would reduce the size of my research group | ||
| - | * Calling for proposals every other year | ||
| - | * Etc.. | ||
| - | * Introducing a pre-proposal stage. | ||
| - | * Etc... | ||
| - | * Reducing the amount of funding for individual proposals | ||
| - | * Etc.. | ||
| - | * Creating smaller research grants for exploratory research, with an expectation that successful proposals are likely to be funded in the following year | ||
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| - | * Proposals to non-governmental research funds are easier to get funded (or "are available to me" ) | ||
| - | * There are too many scientists in the field of astrophysics and the low success rate is an appropriate method of population control | ||
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| - | == Other questions == | ||
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| - | * If my proposal is rejected, (choose one answer that best represents your action) | ||
| - | * I resubmit the same proposal the next year | ||
| - | * I submit a different type of proposal the next year | ||
| - | * I support my research on someone else's grant | ||
| - | * I submit a similar proposal to a different federal funding source | ||
| - | * I submit a similar proposal to a private funding source | ||
| - | * I concentrate on other aspects of my job (e.g. teaching) | ||
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| - | === Sharpen arguments from the Agency statistics. === | ||
| - | = The {{: | ||
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| - | == Further analysis of the proposal per year and proposal per 3 year NSF data == | ||
| - | == A few more snapshots of the NASA Astrophysics merit criteria. == | ||
| - | == Explore further effect of pre-proposal strategy on those that have tried it == | ||
| - | == Detailed comparison of DOE Cosmic Frontier model vs NSF, NASA wrt results. | ||
| - | == Better data on cost per proposal and number of PI's on proposals, etc == | ||
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