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| ==== University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA ==== | ==== University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA ==== |
| | * {{:dpf:snowmass:snowmass_pittsburgh.pdf|Answers to questions}} |
| * {{:dpf:snowmass:snowmass_pittsburgh_2021.pdf|Proposal}} | * {{:dpf:snowmass:snowmass_pittsburgh_2021.pdf|Proposal}} |
| * {{:dpf:snowmass:snowmass_pittsburgh_2021_questions.pdf|Answers to the first set of budget questions}} | * {{:dpf:snowmass:snowmass_pittsburgh_2021_questions.pdf|Answers to the first set of budget questions}} |
| * (Bob B) OK, so I think what they're saying is you pay $15 for an optional continental breakfast, that is also your morning coffee, and then they have a just-coffee coffee break in the afternoon. Is that how you read it? That makes sense for the $95K: it's one coffee break in the afternoon, you want more than that (your AM coffee if for example you don't want their continental breakfast) you pay for it. That's fine, but do you remember APS April in Savannah on that island? They did much the same, the one place to get coffee had a line so long it was untenable -- there are talks and meetings after all -- and Kate Kirby took a lot of abuse. But I want to get the facts straight. | * (Bob B) OK, so I think what they're saying is you pay $15 for an optional continental breakfast, that is also your morning coffee, and then they have a just-coffee coffee break in the afternoon. Is that how you read it? That makes sense for the $95K: it's one coffee break in the afternoon, you want more than that (your AM coffee if for example you don't want their continental breakfast) you pay for it. That's fine, but do you remember APS April in Savannah on that island? They did much the same, the one place to get coffee had a line so long it was untenable -- there are talks and meetings after all -- and Kate Kirby took a lot of abuse. But I want to get the facts straight. |
| * (Bob B) I worry about this plan. What's going to happen after a plenary break and coffee was only served at the optional breakfast? Everyone can't run to the Starbucks. On the other hand with no food at coffee breaks and one coffee break per day I'll have to lose less weight when I get back and I'll be marginally less frantic. Could the Committee ask for a two coffee break estimate? And then discuss whether they want muffins/juice/whatever at the breaks or not? And yeah, Fermilab will be totally happy to work with whoever if they want us to, thanks for clarifying that. | * (Bob B) I worry about this plan. What's going to happen after a plenary break and coffee was only served at the optional breakfast? Everyone can't run to the Starbucks. On the other hand with no food at coffee breaks and one coffee break per day I'll have to lose less weight when I get back and I'll be marginally less frantic. Could the Committee ask for a two coffee break estimate? And then discuss whether they want muffins/juice/whatever at the breaks or not? And yeah, Fermilab will be totally happy to work with whoever if they want us to, thanks for clarifying that. |
| * (Bob B) Mike, I do not want to spend a long time commuting from the dorm to the conference site. Then you can't get back to your room in the middle of the day, and then you have to have their continental breakfast, etc.and I've already said what I thought about the coffee breaks not being realistic. Wash and Minn and VT are campuses with everything in one place. the questions that went out asked about the dorms so we'll have data. I would like them to be 10-15 min away tops and you can walk there, so you don't get crowds waiting for the bus. And I am not crazy about Uber, think about the logistics of dorm->site. How many people do they expect to be in dorms and then load them up in a city and schlep them to the conference site and back? If we get 1000 people how many can stay in their dorms? Say 400 actual physicists -- are we supposed to get on multiple buses twice a day? this proposal is set up for people to stay in shared rooms in the hotel. | * (Bob B) Mike, I do not want to spend a long time commuting from the dorm to the conference site. Then you can't get back to your room in the middle of the day, and then you have to have their continental breakfast, etc., and I've already said what I thought about the coffee breaks not being realistic. Wash and Minn and VT are campuses with everything in one place. The questions that went out asked about the dorms so we'll have data. I would like them to be 10-15 min away tops and you can walk there, so you don't get crowds waiting for the bus. And I am not crazy about Uber. Then think about the logistics of dorm->site->dorm. How many people do they expect to be in dorms? Can they then load them up in a city and schlep them to the conference site and back? If we get 1000 people how many can stay in their dorms? Say 400 actual physicists -- are we supposed to get on eight-ten buses twice a day in a city? This proposal is set up for people to stay in shared rooms in the hotel. |
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