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University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA
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Organizing Committee (co-chairs): Adam Leibovich (UPitt), Vittorio Paolone (UPitt), Manfred Paulini (CMU), Andrew Zentner (UPitt)
Plus: John Alison (CMU), Brian Batell (UPitt), Joe Boudreau (UPitt), Scott Dodelson(CMU), Steve Dytman (UPitt), Ayres Freitas (UPitt), Joni George (UPitt), Tao Han(UPitt), Tae Min Hong (UPitt), Tina Kahniashvili (CMU), Arthur Kosowsky (UPitt),Rachel Mandelbaum (CMU), Jim Mueller (UPitt), Donna Naples (UPitt), JeffNewman (UPitt), Diana Parno (CMU), and Ira Rothstein (CMU)
Venue: Wyndham Grand Pittsburgh Downtown hotel and conference center
Total cost:$566k (registration: $570 pp)
Additional apples-to-apples questions
Coffee break prices for 1000 people for 10 days: $95,644.80 (or $95.6 per person)
Banquet cost per person is a flat $75/person and the reception is $35/person anywhere from 250 - 750 people.
Additional continental breakfast service with a cost of about $15 per person
Their personnel cost is low because they plan to subsidize the helpers and the conference center will work the rooms and AV. Of course, all the sites plan to subsidize student workers. Pittsburgh will contribute $40k to that, so you can consider it part of the cost if you assume all of the other sites added it in, but without claiming a subsidy up front.
Questions to the organizers
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add your comments as bullet points. Nest if you like.
Hotel environment will feel very claustrophobic for a whole week, compared to a campus
Hotel costs are high, compared to dorm rooms.
Dorm rooms are located far away - at the campus.
Bob B: I don't understand $95k for coffee breaks. We looked up the costs and sent Prisca a typical menu. With inflation and tax we estimated ($10.19 now, 8% tax, 2% inflation, round up a little) $12.50/person/break. 10 days*2 breaks/day*$12.50/break = $250/person vs. what I think is meant as $95.60/person, or $25/person/day vs $9.56/person/day. In any case it's a ratio of 95K/250K. Maybe their estimate is just coffee? One break per day? We should find out. I also looked in the proposal and “conference food” is $261K (not $95K) but then they talk about an optional continental breakfast and teas and a light snack being available. I don't think we're doing muffins-to-muffins here.
(Prisca) Hi Bob - take a look at the new file which clearly states coffee breaks… yes, it is a little muffins to bread, but you can see where it comes from .
(Bob B) OK, so I think what they're saying is you pay $15 for an optional continental breakfast, that is also your morning coffee, and then they have a just-coffee coffee break in the afternoon. Is that how you read it? That makes sense for the $95K: it's one coffee break in the afternoon, you want more than that (your AM coffee if for example you don't want their continental breakfast) you pay for it. That's fine, but do you remember APS April in Savannah on that island? They did much the same, the one place to get coffee had a line so long it was untenable – there are talks and meetings after all – and Kate Kirby took a lot of abuse. But I want to get the facts straight.
(Bob B) I worry about this plan. What's going to happen after a plenary break and coffee was only served at the optional breakfast? Everyone can't run to the Starbucks. On the other hand with no food at coffee breaks and one coffee break per day I'll have to lose less weight when I get back and I'll be marginally less frantic. Could the Committee ask for a two coffee break estimate? And then discuss whether they want food or not? And yeah, Fermilab will be totally happy to work with whoever if they want us to.