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classes:2009:fall:phys4101.001:lec_notes_1030 [2009/10/23 21:45] – created ykclasses:2009:fall:phys4101.001:lec_notes_1030 [2009/11/04 01:56] (current) – Filling in a few steps with explination, adding a few more equations to make the derivation more explicit. mbryan
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-Please try to include the following+===Generalized Uncertainty Principle:===  
 +The general formula is given by Griffiths as: 
 +<math>\sigma_{A}^2\sigma_B^2\geq ( \frac{<[\hat{A},\hat{B}]>}{2i} )^2</math>
  
-  * main points understoodand expand them - what is your understanding of what the points were+For exampleuse the canonical commutation relation [x, p] = i<math>\hbar</math>Then,  
-    * expand these points by including many of the details the class discussed. +<math>\sigma_{x}^2\sigma_{p}^2\geq (\frac{i\hbar}{2i})^2 </math> => <math>\sigma_{x}\sigma_{p}\geq\hbar/2</math>. In general, the commutation relation between any non-commuting operators has an imaginary term, which will cancel the imaginary part of the 2i term in the generalized uncertainty principle formulaRecall that this only works with x and <math> p_{x} </math>; for example, <math> [x, p_{y}] = 0 </math> so the uncertainty in x and <math> p_{y} </math> is zeroThat is, you can measure x and <math> p_{y} </math> simultaneously
-  * main points which are not clear.  - describe what you have understood and what the remain questions surrounding the point(s). +
-    * Other classmates can step in and clarify the points, and expand them +
-  * How the main points fit with the big picture of QM Or what is not clear about how today's points fit in in a big picture. +
-  * wonderful tricks which were used in the lecture.\\ +
-\\+
  
 +1-Dimensional Example: Let <math>\hat{A}=\hat{x}=x</math> and <math>\hat{B}=\hat{p}=-i\hbar(\frac{\partial}{\partial x})</math>
  
 +<math>[\hat{x},\hat{p}]=i\hbar </math> => <math>\sigma_{x}^2\sigma_p^2\geq|\frac{i\hbar}{2i}|^2=(\frac{\hbar}{2})^2</math> => <math>\sigma_{x}\sigma_p\geq\frac{\hbar}{2}</math>
  
 +===Derivation:===
 +Start with the general form for any observable A with operator <math> \hat{A} </math>
  
 +<math>\sigma_A^2=<(\hat{A}-<A>)^2>_{\psi} </math>
  
 +<math><\psi|(\hat{A}-<A>)^2\psi>=<(\hat{A}-<A>)\psi|(\hat{A}-<A>)\psi> </math>
  
 +Which will be true for any observable A since all observables are Hermitian. 
 +
 +Assuming <math>\hat{A}</math> is Hermitian,
 +
 +<math>(\hat{A}-<A>)(\hat{A}-<A>)|\psi>=(|(\hat{A}-<A>)\psi>)^2 </math>
 +
 +Now Let f and g be functions of A, <math> \psi </math> and B, <math> \psi </math> respectively,
 +
 +<math>\sigma_A^2=<f|f> </math> where <math>|f>=(\hat{A}-<A>)\psi </math>
 +
 +<math>\sigma_B^2=<g|g> </math> where <math>|g>=(\hat{B}-<B>)\psi </math>
 +
 +Then invoking the Schwartz Inequality, which is true for any vectors in an inner product space such as Hilbert space:
 +
 +<math>\sigma_A^2\sigma_B^2=<f|f><g|g> </math> <math>\geq</math>  <math> |<f|g>|^2 </math>
 +
 +Geometrically this is similar to a simple case of |f> and |g> as vectors in 3D space with an angle (<math>\theta </math>) separating them, such as
 +
 +<math>|f|^2|g|^2\geq|f|^2|g|^2cos^2\theta </math>
 +
 +Keep in mind, f and g can be (and often are) complex when you have <f|g>. Any complex number can be expressed as follows:
 +
 +<math> z=x+iy </math> 
 +
 +As having a real part and an imaginary part, where x and y are both real. 
 +
 +<math>|z|^2 = x^2+y^2 \geq y^2 </math>
 +
 +Now we know that the eigenvalues of any observable <math> \hat{A} </math> and <math> \hat{B} </math> are real, and that the commutation relation between A and B is complex. So we can solve for the imaginary part of <math> |z|^2 </math> to obtain y:
 +
 +<math> x + iy - (x - iy) = 2iy = z - z* </math> and solving for y, <math> y = \frac{z - z*}{2i} </math>.
 +
 +Now we can let z be the inner product of our two vectors, and y will be the commutation relation between them; 
 +
 +<math> z = <f|g> </math>, <math> z* = <g|f> </math>, and <math> \frac{z - z*}{2i} = \frac{<f|g> - <g|f>}{2i} </math>
 +
 +and this numerator is nothing but <math> [\hat{A}, \hat{B}] </math>, 
 +
 +and 
 +
 +<math>\sigma_A^2\sigma_B^2 </math>  <math>\geq</math>  <math> |<f|g>|^2 </math>  <math> \geq </math> <math> y^2 = (\frac{z - z*}{2i})^2 </math>, so
 +
 +
 +<math>\sigma_{A}^2\sigma_B^2\geq ( \frac{[\hat{A},\hat{B}]}{2i} )^2</math>
 +
 +This relation will hold for any general pair of observables A and B which do not commute - these are the so called "incompatible observables." A rather famous example outside of x and p is the pair E and t. Incompatible observables do not share a complete set of eigenfunctions, meaning that any two of these observables cannot be expressed with one complete set of eigenfunctions, so you can't measure the two observables at once. 
  
  
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