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classes:2009:fall:phys4101.001:q_a_1111 [2009/11/12 22:34] – x500_razi0001classes:2009:fall:phys4101.001:q_a_1111 [2009/11/16 22:20] (current) – yk
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-===== Nov 11 (Wed)  =====+===== Nov 11 (Wed) Radial Wave Function (finite well, hydrogen) =====
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 Yes, simultaneous eigenstates are important. Generally speaking if two operators do not have simultaneous eigenstates, then they can't be measured at the same time. For example, x and p do not have simultaneous eigenstates, so we can't get the exact value of x and p at the same time: <math>\delta x \delta p \ge \hbar/2</math> But angular momentum <math>l^2</math> and <math>l_z</math> have common eigenstates and in those states both of them can have exact measurement. Yes, simultaneous eigenstates are important. Generally speaking if two operators do not have simultaneous eigenstates, then they can't be measured at the same time. For example, x and p do not have simultaneous eigenstates, so we can't get the exact value of x and p at the same time: <math>\delta x \delta p \ge \hbar/2</math> But angular momentum <math>l^2</math> and <math>l_z</math> have common eigenstates and in those states both of them can have exact measurement.
 ====Dagny==== ====Dagny====
-Basic question: How do we go (what's the process) from dxdydz to <math>r^2sin^2\theta</math><math>dr</math><math>d\theta</math><math>d\phi</math>+Basic question: How do we go (what's the process) from dxdydz to <math>r^2sin\theta</math><math>dr</math><math>d\theta</math><math>d\phi</math>
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 The process is simple, dxdydz=dv for the cartesian coordinate system. In similar way, dv for the spherical coordinate system is <math>dr*rd\theta*rsin\theta d\phi</math>. It may be easily understood if you look at the sherical coordinate system plot from any EM refernece book. The process is simple, dxdydz=dv for the cartesian coordinate system. In similar way, dv for the spherical coordinate system is <math>dr*rd\theta*rsin\theta d\phi</math>. It may be easily understood if you look at the sherical coordinate system plot from any EM refernece book.
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 Wait a second: the sin term isn't squared in dV, is it? I thought dV was just  Wait a second: the sin term isn't squared in dV, is it? I thought dV was just 
 <math>r^2sin\theta dr d\theta d\phi</math>  ??  <math>r^2sin\theta dr d\theta d\phi</math>  ?? 
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 +Correct!
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 The unit of k is [length]^-1. Because momentum <math>p=\hbar k</math>, angular momentum <math> L= n \hbar = momentum*length </math>, so k is [length]^-1. The unit of k is [length]^-1. Because momentum <math>p=\hbar k</math>, angular momentum <math> L= n \hbar = momentum*length </math>, so k is [length]^-1.
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 +What is the very detailed process for the transformation of the gradient operator from cartesian to spherical coordinates? Just one operator term is fine, like del/delx. (Because I'm just interested in the process and also how we come about this process.) I've found a couple of website examples on how to do it, but nothing that provides a clear explanation. 
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