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classes:2009:fall:phys4101.001:q_a_1209 [2009/12/10 15:21] ykclasses:2009:fall:phys4101.001:q_a_1209 [2009/12/19 17:23] (current) x500_sohnx020
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 Another question about [4.151]. Another question about [4.151].
 What if I switch alpha and beta, we would get <math>\chi_{-}^{x}=\begin{pmatrix} -1/sqrt2\\1/sqrt2 \end{pmatrix} </math> What if I switch alpha and beta, we would get <math>\chi_{-}^{x}=\begin{pmatrix} -1/sqrt2\\1/sqrt2 \end{pmatrix} </math>
-Is this the same as 4.151? I mean Kai will be different finally.+Is this the same as 4.151? I mean Kai will be different finally
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 +===Yuichi=== 
 +Your <math>\chi_{-}^{x}</math> times -1 is 4.151.  So the difference is in the normalization factor whose absolute value is the same, so they are can considered the same function.
  
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 ===Yuichi=== ===Yuichi===
 This is an elegant way to solve a problems for sure, but I don't think it is an efficient way to find the solution necessarily.   If you come across with such an operator, your life is easy, but if I were you, if this discovery does not happen, I would use more dumb but sure way, which may require finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors.  Once that's done, with the wisdom of hindsight, you may be able to find such an operator.  The right operator for 6.7 is not something you are very familiar with, and many of you may not think of it. This is an elegant way to solve a problems for sure, but I don't think it is an efficient way to find the solution necessarily.   If you come across with such an operator, your life is easy, but if I were you, if this discovery does not happen, I would use more dumb but sure way, which may require finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors.  Once that's done, with the wisdom of hindsight, you may be able to find such an operator.  The right operator for 6.7 is not something you are very familiar with, and many of you may not think of it.
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 +====Jake22 12/15 4:30====
 +What are some suggested alternatives to using 4.178 for describing a two level system (like one of states spin up and spin down) that may allow the two particle state to be expressed without entanglement, as in a composition of one-particle states?
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 +=== Blackbox 5:30 ===
 +4.178 shows only one state  with m=0 carries s=0 which is singlet case. I don't think there may exist other good alternatives for this espression.
  
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