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     in some underground sites. That is, if a door isn't it the way we could potentially deploy instruments totally      in some underground sites. That is, if a door isn't it the way we could potentially deploy instruments totally 
     autonomously and do comms wireless down the drift.     autonomously and do comms wireless down the drift.
-Vuk: attempted wireless communication in the drifts in the early days, didn't work well. Also, there are usually  +    Vuk: attempted wireless communication in the drifts in the early days, didn't work well. Also, there are usually  
-turns in the drifts, difficult to get a direct line of sight.+    turns in the drifts, difficult to get a direct line of sight.
  
     b) Multiple solutions exist for sending time that are off the shelf.  We need to just get started on that one.     b) Multiple solutions exist for sending time that are off the shelf.  We need to just get started on that one.
-Vuk: this is the highest priority now. There are solutions developed by other users, but may require us to develop  +    Vuk: this is the highest priority now. There are solutions developed by other users, but may require us to develop  
-some hardware. There may also be vendors selling repeaters of the GPS signals, eg used for subway tunnels etc. We  +    some hardware. There may also be vendors selling repeaters of the GPS signals, eg used for subway tunnels etc. We  
-would need to speak with the vendors to understand exactly what signals are being repeated, and make sure this is  +    would need to speak with the vendors to understand exactly what signals are being repeated, and make sure this is  
-what the Q330 would require...+    what the Q330 would require...
  
     c) Disposable batteries: air cells are an option to consider.  Rough number I got from Tim Parker was $100/month      c) Disposable batteries: air cells are an option to consider.  Rough number I got from Tim Parker was $100/month 
     for the station alone and double that if we have to feed a radio or a fiber optic device (one or the other or both      for the station alone and double that if we have to feed a radio or a fiber optic device (one or the other or both 
     are required of course underground). Lighter than standard acid batteries, about 1/4 weight, and disposable.     are required of course underground). Lighter than standard acid batteries, about 1/4 weight, and disposable.
-Vuk: batteries may really be the way to go. All of the locations we are considering are accessible via rail or other vehicles.  +    Vuk: batteries may really be the way to go. All of the locations we are considering are accessible via rail or other vehicles.  
-So it shouldn't be difficult to replace ~10 batteries in a station every ~6 months or so. +    So it shouldn't be difficult to replace ~10 batteries in a station every ~6 months or so. 
  
-Gary: Also, maybe could use DC voltage supply over a ~2km cable. Should check with SURF whether there are cost savings  +    Gary: Also, maybe could use DC voltage supply over a ~2km cable. Should check with SURF whether there are cost savings  
-if we go with this option, as opposed to AC power.  +    if we go with this option, as opposed to AC power.  
-Shivaraj: there are constraints due to fire-hazard on the insulation material etc, which drive the costs up.+    Shivaraj: there are constraints due to fire-hazard on the insulation material etc, which drive the costs up.
  
 2) UMN test setup (Tanner) 2) UMN test setup (Tanner)
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 3) Analysis of existing data 3) Analysis of existing data
     a) Frames/miniSEED files (Shivaraj, Tanner, Michael)     a) Frames/miniSEED files (Shivaraj, Tanner, Michael)
-Shivaraj: produced frames for another 2 months of data, currently at Caltech. Continuing to produce frames for other data.  +    Shivaraj: produced frames for another 2 months of data, currently at Caltech. Continuing to produce frames for other data.  
-Timing synchronization is at 1 ms, so not too bad. But data usually does not include all stations. Also, observe DC level  +    Timing synchronization is at 1 ms, so not too bad. But data usually does not include all stations. Also, observe DC level  
-shifting over time in discontinuous steps, on varying time-scales (sometimes even shorter than 10 sec).  +    shifting over time in discontinuous steps, on varying time-scales (sometimes even shorter than 10 sec).  
-Gary: are you dropping bits? Are the steps powers of two? Are there ripples in the series? +    Gary: are you dropping bits? Are the steps powers of two? Are there ripples in the series? 
-Shivaraj: appear to be sharp jumps. +    Shivaraj: appear to be sharp jumps. 
-Gary: so it is probably digital, otherwise there would be some ringing in the time series. Check if these are power of 2 jumps... +    Gary: so it is probably digital, otherwise there would be some ringing in the time series. Check if these are power of 2 jumps... 
-Shivaraj: see it in 4100A, could be present in other stations as well. Suspect we should be able to find another good patch of data.+    Shivaraj: see it in 4100A, could be present in other stations as well. Suspect we should be able to find another good patch of data.
  
     b) Wiener filtering (Michael, Jan)     b) Wiener filtering (Michael, Jan)
  
     c) Estimation algorithms (Shivaraj, Eric)     c) Estimation algorithms (Shivaraj, Eric)
-Shivaraj: planning to add P and Rayleigh filters into 1 filter.  +    Shivaraj: planning to add P and Rayleigh filters into 1 filter.  
-Vuk: Had a discussion with Eric and Shivaraj about this. Roughly, Shivaraj will aim to complete his study by combining the P and  +    Vuk: Had a discussion with Eric and Shivaraj about this. Roughly, Shivaraj will aim to complete his study by combining the P and  
-R filters into one, test it on simulations, and then apply it to the real data acquired at Homestake. This should be sufficient for  +    R filters into one, test it on simulations, and then apply it to the real data acquired at Homestake. This should be sufficient for  
-a publication. Eric will take a longer-term approach, trying to incorporate all wave modes, address computational issues that will  +    a publication. Eric will take a longer-term approach, trying to incorporate all wave modes, address computational issues that will  
-probably arise, and study possible degeneracies between different modes.+    probably arise, and study possible degeneracies between different modes.
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