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imagerteleconnotes20171003

Telecon 20171003

Attending: Al, Roger, Jacques, Jeff F., Shaul, Karl, Qi, Ranajoy, Brian

Agenda:

Notes:

Imager + Spectrometer (Karl)

  • mini-PIXIE, 20 cm mirrors, 10x38x48 FTS
    • Same boresight angle
    • Share same cooling system
  • mass of mini-PIXIE, ~20 kg in total, barrel contributes most of it.
    • detector assembly is < 1kg
  • Imager focal plane mass: not known yet. A/I Brian to ping Roger.
  • with Open Dragone
    • same boresight as Imager, although not necessary
    • quite small, fits easily
  • with Cross Dragone
    • boresights don't match, but scan pattern does (beta is same in both cases)
    • Al: it’s okay. There will be some time delay between imager and spectrometer scans, but it does not matter much.
  • Boresight and spin axis
    • It’s not required to have boresight along the spin axis. PIXIE did plan to align with spin axis,allows fitting of Q/U of each pixel before moving to next pixel.
      • It’s okay to not do this. The current main driver is the sky coverage.
  • FTS box is not required to be with optical tubes, it can be anywhere as long as an optical path exists.
    • The detectors can even be on the Imager focal plane.
  • Tradeoffs:
    • question of cost, might limit imager size
      • Current primary costs: cooling, telescope, readout, and detectors
      • marginal costs when increasing
  • Aside:
    • Check Open Dragone fit, to see if there is conflict between mirrors and cone. A/I UMN to check.
    • structural issues with support for mirrors?
      • Brian: JPL is working on this question.

Noise Model (Karl)

  • Biggest change: safety factor → 2
  • Squid is the largest contribution
    • Using 3.5 pA/rt(Hz). A/I Karl checking with Hannes at NIST about proper number to quote.
  • Roger: all these numbers are fine.
  • Cross check between Karl and Roger. noise matches except for:
    • bunching noise, a factor of 2
    • bunching noise does not contribute too much, ~15%; all other are same
    • A/I Karl, track down 2 in bunching noise. Possibly polarization related.
  • Richard’s correction on Coma
    • more detectors at high frequencies, for both Open and Cross Dragone
    • can weight CMB frequencies more heavily.
  • Can optimize edge taper
    • including correlated photon bunching noise from CMB (correctly) and mirrors (incorrectly, but with factor of 2)
      • Next step: Karl to implement full correct calculation for mirrors.
    • best mapping speed is near 2 F lambda. Current Open Dragone pixels are at 2 F lambda.

Optics (Qi)

  • New cross-dragone with +/- 10 deg FOV
    • f/4.5, 1m aperture, requires deployable shields.
    • deployable shields should be V-grooves as well. leave design to thermal engineers. Just put place-holder in current model
  • both cross dragones' focal planes view sky after 1 reflection off tertiary
  • total sensitivity is better than Open dragone (baseline)
    • assumes full telescope is 4 K
    • also number of detectors is larger. 3k for Open, 7k and 11k for new crossed designs.
  • How does larger f-number give better sensitivity? Opposite what is normally said. From CORE, increasing f-number gave no benefit since pixels grew at same rate focal plane grew.
    • A/I Karl/Qi to sort out scaling of focal plane with f-number.

Scan delayed to next week.

imagerteleconnotes20171003.txt · Last modified: 2017/10/10 12:55 by hanany