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* Amy: comment, removing high-v bands does not save a lot of money though | * Amy: comment, removing high-v bands does not save a lot of money though | ||
* 2) multi-chroic | * 2) multi-chroic | ||
- | * Roger: sinuous antenna, | + | * Roger: sinuous antenna, |
- | * the number of bands is more restricted on the horns than antenna?? | + | * polarization rotation with sinuous |
- | * different edge tapers, is it acceptable? is it a bad idea? | + | * different edge tapers |
- | * Shaul: none of this is tech risks, they are systematic | + | * Experiments are fielding these pixels and both will be tested. |
- | * Roger: developing reliable tech | + | * In both cases could go down to 2 band pixels. |
- | * Shaul: it isn’t clear to me that the place to discuss | + | * Shaul: none of sound like tech risks, they are systematics |
- | * Roger: in terms of tech plans, people generalizsin, | + | * Roger: developing reliable tech is risky |
- | * Amy: we need to talk about if we don’t have three colors; how we distrubute, majority goes to systematics; | + | * Shaul: it isn’t clear to me what is the place to discuss |
- | * Amy: descope, we could get 3-color, and therefore the solution is 2-color pixel, tech chapter or risk, not systematics; | + | * Amy: we need to talk about if we don’t have three colors; how we distribute, majority goes to systematics; |
- | * Shaul: agree with; point out it will not be that we won’t have, it will be like we have those detectors, but systematics exceeds; if you have sensitivity, | + | * Amy: descope, we could not get 3-color, and therefore the solution is 2-color pixel, tech chapter or risk, not systematics; |
- | * Amy: is there a reaslistic situation ,2022, 3-color, not make sense to fly 3-color? | + | * Shaul: agree; |
- | * Kris: ….(Karl? | + | * Amy: is there a reaslistic situation, |
- | * ??: if you have 3-color, is it possible to | + | * Shaul: |
- | * Roger: | + | |
- | * Shaul: we have not developed 2-color in most of our bands either | + | |
* Roger: there is no concern on 2-color; there is concern on 3-color | * Roger: there is no concern on 2-color; there is concern on 3-color | ||
* Amy: with greater confidence to build 2-color | * Amy: with greater confidence to build 2-color | ||
* Shaul: this needs a significant amount of work | * Shaul: this needs a significant amount of work | ||
- | * Amy: agree with Shaul that it’s a lot of work; being able to address risk of 3-color is maybe worthy | + | * Amy: agree with Shaul that it’s a lot of work; but being able to address risk of 3-color is maybe worthy |
* Shaul: how serious is this issue? | * Shaul: how serious is this issue? | ||
* Shaul: agree that readout is not a challenge | * Shaul: agree that readout is not a challenge | ||
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+ | Science descopes | ||
+ | * Amy: what to save money: shrinking the operation, scaling down requires less mechanical reduces cost; | ||
+ | * one thing that’s | ||
+ | * Kris: what is the range to reduce? | ||
+ | * Amy: now 1rpm, if half rpm, don’t know how much can save | ||
+ | * Shaul: from science point of view, the impact is on noise, more 1/f, not easy to quantify; that is something has to be assessed by simulation | ||
+ | * Shaul: all of the small scale science should be fine, the only science affected could be largest angular scale and B modes; we can simply say "the effect on the largest angular scale will be accessed" | ||
+ | * Amy: for baseline, it was 950 M, under 1B cap. Last decade, EPIC review increased 20-30%; showing | ||