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 ====== Telecon Notes Dec. 19, 2018  ====== ====== Telecon Notes Dec. 19, 2018  ======
  
-Attendance:   \\+Attendance:   Tim P., Jamie B., Jacques D., Amy T., Raphael F., Nick B., Bill J., Charles L. \\
  
 Notes by:  Karl \\ Notes by:  Karl \\
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     * From now on, limited *and coordinated* editing, please.     * From now on, limited *and coordinated* editing, please.
   * Authorships/Endorsements - plan to release another version Friday, and a reminder after the beginning of the year.    * Authorships/Endorsements - plan to release another version Friday, and a reminder after the beginning of the year. 
-  * Status of writing {{:private:picoreport_20181219.pdf|Current version}}+  * Status of writing {{:private:picoreport.pdf|current version}}
     * Executive Summary in progress      * Executive Summary in progress 
     * Introduction will be replaced with 'Preliminaries'; 80% complete.      * Introduction will be replaced with 'Preliminaries'; 80% complete. 
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       * SO (and S4 source counts)       * SO (and S4 source counts)
     * Foregrounds - Needs review (SH) but Interesting Progress from Mathieu     * Foregrounds - Needs review (SH) but Interesting Progress from Mathieu
 +      * Mathieu plot: {{:private:gnilc_foregrounds.png?100|}}
     * Systematics - Done     * Systematics - Done
     * Requirements - Needs review (SH)     * Requirements - Needs review (SH)
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     * Exploring our history, from the Big Bang to the Milky Way     * Exploring our history, from the Big Bang to the Milky Way
  
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-====== Telecon Notes Dec. 19, 2018  ====== 
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-Attendance:   Tim P., Jamie B., Jacques D., Amy T., Raphael F., Nick B., Bill J. \\ 
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-Notes by:  Karl \\ 
  
 === Notes === === Notes ===
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     * give general definitions like EE, BB, CBE, Baseline etc.  Talks about comparisons to things like S3 and SO.     * give general definitions like EE, BB, CBE, Baseline etc.  Talks about comparisons to things like S3 and SO.
     * Idea is to give the reader the background they need.      * Idea is to give the reader the background they need. 
-    * JB: Is S4 comparison discussed?  SH: No direct quantative comparisons.  Some qualitative comparisons are mentioned. General ground complementarity is discussed.+    * JB: Is S4 comparison discussed?  SH: No direct quantitative comparisons.  Some qualitative comparisons are mentioned. General ground complementarity is discussed.
     * AT: May consider introducing what the subsections of Chapt 2 are. Some guidance to readers.      * AT: May consider introducing what the subsections of Chapt 2 are. Some guidance to readers. 
       * SH: Good idea. **Will work on this**       * SH: Good idea. **Will work on this**
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         * JB: Should only include things that are significant improvements.  Too many modest improvements don't look like you need $1B when SO is $100M.         * JB: Should only include things that are significant improvements.  Too many modest improvements don't look like you need $1B when SO is $100M.
         * JD: But these small things add up. Maybe each of these factors of 2 are put together in one section.  Like the parameter constraints beyond LCDM.         * JD: But these small things add up. Maybe each of these factors of 2 are put together in one section.  Like the parameter constraints beyond LCDM.
-        * +        * CL: We should discuss what PICO can do. Our predictions. Not talk about what others did or think they can do or may have done wrong.
     * Other 95% complete - but DM improvements (including axions) relative to Simons are ~x2. Include?      * Other 95% complete - but DM improvements (including axions) relative to Simons are ~x2. Include? 
 +      * This may move into a paragraph with LCDM extensions and other marginal improvements over Planck, SO, etc.
     * Other - OK     * Other - OK
   * Extragalactic    * Extragalactic 
     * 'First Luminous Source' - complete     * 'First Luminous Source' - complete
     * Other (lensing, halo lensing, compton-Y) being rearranged - text tomorrow noon Central?     * Other (lensing, halo lensing, compton-Y) being rearranged - text tomorrow noon Central?
 +      * Colin uploaded a new version today.  **Nick will do his best to look at before tomorrow noon.** Will confirm schedule this evening.
   * Galactic - 100%   * Galactic - 100%
   * Legacy - 98% complete.    * Legacy - 98% complete. 
     * Table 2.3 is a question enlarge or delete?      * Table 2.3 is a question enlarge or delete? 
 +      * This material (and more) is in the text. Table is not exhaustive.  Is it worth the time investment to make this? Not clear that we can do so in next few weeks.
 +      * JD: Mentioned CIB.  We could say CIB is/can be involved in delensing.
 +        * SH: This is a good example.  CIB is mentioned in text, but is not in table.  Work is needed to add this to table along the lines of 'current knowledge' for CIB in table.
 +        * JD: ** Will check if I can add information on CIB ** give update tonight if not. 
     * SO (and S4 source counts)     * SO (and S4 source counts)
 +      * Our calculations for what SO/S4 can do don't agree with their predictions. SO predicts many more sources than we predict.
 +      * Example: We predict 50,000 clusters found. SO predicts many more than we expect they would when scaling from Planck. Gianfranco could resolve by communication with SO. 
   * Foregrounds - Needs review (SH) but Interesting Progress from Mathieu   * Foregrounds - Needs review (SH) but Interesting Progress from Mathieu
-    * Mathieu plot: {{:private:gnilc_foregrounds.png?100|}}+    * GNILC removal on 50% of sky. input r = 0. Dot line at r = 10^-4.  Shows debiased CMB all the way to low ells.  Similar figure will go in foregrounds sections.
   * Systematics - Done   * Systematics - Done
   * Requirements - Needs review (SH)   * Requirements - Needs review (SH)
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 Cover page Cover page
-  * Samples: {{:private:pico_cover_v1-2.jpg?direct&200|version 1.2}} {{:private:pico_cover_v2-2.jpg?direct&200|version 1.2}} {{:private:pico_cover_v1-4.jpg?direct&200|version 1.4}} +  * Most people prefer top left figure.  
 +  * AT: these updates don't have new ideas from EC members. 
 +  * AT: None of these are final.  Hopefully these provide all the elements we want. Opinions? 
 +  * AT: Just a comment. Having text on the cover is uncommon.  But it seems we have decided to go in this direction. 
 +    * JB: No text on cover isn't hard rule.  Like the one with line of science points. Scattered science topics is just cluttered.  AT: true, text on cover is ok. 
 +  * SH: One concern was if the text on cover is obviously science goals.  Or people might think we were just describing the universe. 
 +    * JB/JD: as long as the same language is in EC they will get it. 
 +  * JB: Like version 1 because it shows spacecraft.  Like version 2 because it is new/different and looks cool. 
 +  * JD: Don't like science topics scattered around. Keeping the line is better. No inflation in science topics? 
 +    * SH: my task to rewrite topics. Anyone want that task?  . . . no response . . . 
 +  * AT: imagining 2 new versions.  1st, Top left but with some maturing.  2nd, eye with spacecraft at center.  PICO text moves. 
  
 Parameter Constraints Parameter Constraints
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   * SH: Maybe we put all the factor of 2's like n_s, n_run.   * SH: Maybe we put all the factor of 2's like n_s, n_run.
   * AvE: Important to distinguish between completed experiments (Planck) and planned experiments (SO or S4). Need to do much better than Planck, but marginally better than SO is more defensible.   * AvE: Important to distinguish between completed experiments (Planck) and planned experiments (SO or S4). Need to do much better than Planck, but marginally better than SO is more defensible.
 +  * SH: Jacques, can you write a paragraph on a broad view of this?  JD: **Yes, will do as soon as possible**
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