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====== Telecon 20171128 ====== | ====== Telecon 20171128 ====== | ||
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* Readout mux factor, wire count (Roger?) | * Readout mux factor, wire count (Roger?) | ||
* Temperature stability from Planck? | * Temperature stability from Planck? | ||
+ | * Sun Shield configurations: | ||
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=== Notes:=== | === Notes:=== | ||
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+ | __Minutes__ | ||
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+ | Focal plane and noise: | ||
+ | * **Karl** to make memo of all assumptions going into these calculations | ||
+ | * Using curved focal plane with larger DLFOV. | ||
+ | * More flexibility in number pixels per band, can trade synchrotron pixels for CMB pixels | ||
+ | * with larger mirrors can do 28k bolos. | ||
+ | * CMB sensitivities for cases discussed last week. | ||
+ | * Numbers in presentation. | ||
+ | * Biggest effects: | ||
+ | * Emissivity to 0.06% from 1%, 20% gain in sensitivity | ||
+ | * stop to 6.5 K from 4 K, 10 % loss in sensitivity | ||
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+ | Aside: observing efficiency | ||
+ | * Continuous 100% ? vs single shot 80-85% ADR | ||
+ | * Toki: may need downtime for data transfer. | ||
+ | * Jeff: SPIDER saw problems. | ||
+ | * Downlink time? Julian: 15 TB / day uncompressed. With fewer bits, compression ~ 1TB/day | ||
+ | * Amy: Possible tech (implementation in ~2 yrs) Ka band, 30 GHz, 150 Mb/ | ||
+ | * 1 Tb is about 10 hrs. Likely DSN time is limited to few hours. | ||
+ | * Shaul: We may need to do some amount of onboard preprocessing. | ||
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+ | Readout: | ||
+ | * need wire counts and mux factor. | ||
+ | * 100 mK --> 4 K | ||
+ | * Toki: what is cooling power? | ||
+ | * Just wire count for now. lengths and materials are helpful as well. | ||
+ | * Assuming: Achieved, x68. Can also do a possible value, x105 from EBEX or similar. | ||
+ | * Berkeley development working to x300. Requires significant work still. | ||
+ | * Do in next 1-2 wks. **Karl** relay number px and band layout, etc. | ||
+ | * Power use, Roger calculating | ||
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+ | Simulations starting (Julian) | ||
+ | * software running, was developed and used for Planck. | ||
+ | * running noise map of few detectors. | ||
+ | * Andreas Zonker running this | ||
+ | * systematics group deciding what to include | ||
+ | * sidelobes (brad doing grasp calculations) | ||
+ | * calibration and gain variations | ||
+ | * metrics such as S/N on dipole | ||
+ | * Polarization calibration a work in progress | ||
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+ | Sun shields | ||
+ | * options to get alpha = 30. | ||
+ | * Julian: alpha of 35 optimum was for LB. should recalculate optimum for PICO | ||
+ | * deployable shields | ||
+ | * for alpha 30, need 50 cm shields | ||
+ | * really shields need to be ' | ||
+ | * ' | ||
+ | * Does this make sense? | ||
+ | * Definitely would need more thermal modeling. | ||
+ | * Amy: Make everything a tulip? | ||
+ | * Amy: Useful for Team-X. Concept is currently volume limited telescope. | ||
+ | * In same vein, if telescope is cost limited we should have a design plan for this. Could have some smaller systems prepped. | ||
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