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 ====== Telecon 20171128 ====== ====== Telecon 20171128 ======
  
-Attending:  \\+Attending:  Julian, Toki, Tom, Kris, Brian, Shaul, Qi, Karl, Jeff, Amy, + (...some who joined late)
  
-Notes by :  \\+Notes by : Karl \\
  
 === Agenda=== === Agenda===
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    * Readout mux factor, wire count (Roger?)    * Readout mux factor, wire count (Roger?)
    * Temperature stability from Planck?    * Temperature stability from Planck?
 +   * Sun Shield configurations: (Qi)
 +     * {{::extension_shields.pdf|Deployable trade-offs and "Add-on" Sunshields}}
  
 === Notes:=== === Notes:===
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 Matt Matt
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 +__Minutes__
 +
 +Focal plane and noise:
 +  * **Karl** to make memo of all assumptions going into these calculations
 +  * Using curved focal plane with larger DLFOV. 
 +    * More flexibility in number pixels per band, can trade synchrotron pixels for CMB pixels
 +    * with larger mirrors can do 28k bolos.
 +  * CMB sensitivities for cases discussed last week.
 +    * Numbers in presentation.
 +    * Biggest effects:
 +      * Emissivity to 0.06% from 1%, 20% gain in sensitivity
 +      * stop to 6.5 K from 4 K, 10 % loss in sensitivity
 +
 +Aside: observing efficiency 
 +    * Continuous 100% ? vs  single shot 80-85% ADR
 +    * Toki: may need downtime for data transfer.  RF interference with SQUIDS
 +      * Jeff: SPIDER saw problems.  Tech dependent, some systems are more RFI sensitive than others. our specific case will need investigation.
 +    * Downlink time?  Julian: 15 TB / day uncompressed. With fewer bits, compression ~ 1TB/day
 +      * Amy: Possible tech (implementation in ~2 yrs) Ka band, 30 GHz, 150 Mb/sec.  
 +        * 1 Tb is about 10 hrs.  Likely DSN time is limited to few hours.
 +      * Shaul: We may need to do some amount of onboard preprocessing.
 +  
 +Readout:
 +  * need wire counts and mux factor.  Roger done TDM. Toki will do FDM.
 +    * 100 mK --> 4 K
 +    * Toki: what is cooling power?  Can give 2 cases.  
 +      * Just wire count for now.  lengths and materials are helpful as well.
 +      * Assuming: Achieved, x68. Can also do a possible value, x105 from EBEX or similar.
 +      * Berkeley development working to x300. Requires significant work still. 
 +      * Do in next 1-2 wks.  **Karl** relay number px and band layout, etc.
 +  * Power use, Roger calculating
 +
 +Simulations starting (Julian)
 +  * software running, was developed and used for Planck.
 +  * running noise map of few detectors.
 +  * Andreas Zonker running this
 +  * systematics group deciding what to include
 +    * sidelobes (brad doing grasp calculations)
 +    * calibration and gain variations
 +      * metrics such as S/N on dipole
 +    * Polarization calibration a work in progress
 +
 +Sun shields
 +  * options to get alpha = 30.
 +    * Julian: alpha of 35 optimum was for LB. should recalculate optimum for PICO
 +  * deployable shields
 +    * for alpha 30, need  50 cm shields
 +    * really shields need to be 'flatter' (same angle as inner V-grooves) so slightly longer.
 +  * 'add-on' shields.  2nd set above first.  2nd set covers primary.
 +    * Does this make sense?
 +    * Definitely would need more thermal modeling.
 +    * Amy: Make everything a tulip?  What about just a very steep tulip, single set of V-grooves.
 +    * Amy: Useful for Team-X. Concept is currently volume limited telescope.  When Team-X says we're in budget, this lets us have examples to show them.
 +      * In same vein, if telescope is cost limited we should have a design plan for this.  Could have some smaller systems prepped.  **Karl** will prep a 1.2m Open Dragone system.
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