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imagerteleconnotes20180405

Telecon 20180404

Attending: Kris,Brian, Toki, Tom, Jeff, Shaul, Karl, Qi

Notes by : Qi

Agenda

Notes

  • SPIE
    • in June, mostly technical
    • Apr 9, deadline for finalizing the author list and material
  • TeamX meeting
    • 2nd Instrument meeting; Mission meeting
    • Overall cost is the the most important product
    • no significant revelation
    • Focal plane
      • converged to one configuration; most compact, proper strehl ratio for high frequency
      • the other two, we have to change the optical design, to accommodate with high frequency
      • this focal plane has largest number of detectors; the difference compared to other two is very small though.
  • Noise budget
    • V3.2: very little change from V3.1; noise 0.63 uK arcmin before, now 0.61 uK arcmin
    • compare values with CORE and LiteBird calculation, single detector
    • we are using two independent codes to calculate. Karl at UMN; Roger at JPL. Agree within 5%, slightly difference. Reasonable confidence.
    • various assumptions
      • to what extend our assumptions agree with other experiments
      • in some bands, noise lower than LIteBird, some bands higher than LiteBird.
      • everything seems consistent, no major change
      • Psat, safety factor of 2, we haven chosen a factor of 2, it’s used by JPL folks, also by SPIDER AND KECK. We thought it’s reasonable.
      • Quantitative calculations will be done by next week: what T of elements (mirros) could bring us to a factor of 2
      • Efficiency
        • It varies between the bands
        • Detector: lenselet + antenna + bolo, 70%
        • Edge Taper: center 10 db, lower band and higher band have different values; low, center, high: 70%, 90%, 99%.
        • End to end, 50-70%
        • Optical efficiency can mess up the estimate on safety factor
      • Emissivity
        • We are using measured emissivity from Planck. We already know, for highest bands, we may need to change to be more conservative
  • Margins
    • Space Mission, “current best estimate”, e.g. 100% yield; we are not likely to do better than 0.61 uK arkmin
    • What margin is the judge, successful or not.
    • Two paths:
      • 1. start with assumptions
        • each one assumption
        • “worst case”
      • 2. We can propagate backs from sigma_r 2*10^-5.
      • 3. maybe a 3rd one, some factors on NET.
      • Kris: instrument is one thing, how to get data to science is another
      • Raphael used mapping speed, assuming delensing on our own resolution. 1*10^-4 is the limit that Shaul said in AAS, which has margins from calculated value 2*10^-5.
        • It's not a trivial calculation
    • LiteBird
      • does have margins
      • “large sections”, different categories, based on what's typically achieved in lab and by ground experiments
      • quote r with margin in it
      • nominal performance and worst performance. Give both to science team. Worst case did not give too much science. Lately, increase number of detectors to improve “worst case”
    • Shaul is going to check with Planck team
  • Workshop
    • suggestions:
      • Kris: 1) without modulator 2) arguments on margins
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