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Dec 07 (Mon)

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John Galt 12/6 3:51PM

From the practice test:

“b. What is the magnitude squared of the total angular momentum (sum of L and S)?”

This is referring to J^2, not simply J, correct?

Yuichi

Correct.

Daniel Faraday 12/6 430pm

What's the difference between j, J, and <math>\vec{J}</math> ?

Yuichi

(By convention, nothing deeper), <math>\vec{J}</math> refers to an operator for an angular momentum, which is the sum of a few angular momenta. “J” is used when Yuichi is too lazy to write <math>\vec{J}</math> “j” is the quantum number associated with them. i.e. the eigenvalues of <math>\vec{J}^2</math> is <math>j(j+1)\hbar^2</math>. <math>J^2</math> and <math>\vec{J}^2</math> are the same.

joh04684 12/6 1914

I was looking back through the book and was thinking about the shapes of the probability densities of electrons in various wavefunctions (page 157). I can see that these each have unique shapes, but what causes them to be forced into these particular shapes in the first place?

Esquire 12/6 1914.5 (Age of being in the same room)

I believe the gnarly shapes are due to couluuuouuuuooooooumb repulsion betwixt thine olde electrinos.

8-)Esquire8-)

Yuichi

Are you guys doing a standing comedy these days?

In any case, I would not say the shapes are due to Coulomb because even for 3D finite square well has the same theta-phi dependence of probability density distribution.

joh04684 12/7 2033

Oh okay, so those shapes are just a result of the probability density functions that we developed in that section?

Dark Helmet 12/6 12:39

But that doesn't explain why they are that way-that just says they follow the math we developed. What is the physical significance to each particular odd shape. Like why is the S orbital spherical and the p orbital dumbell shaped?

Spherical Chicken : Star date 200912.06

For the practice test, question 1, am I correct in solving the normalization constant to be theta? This doesn't seem right to me… is there an unwritten constant out front that we're solving for?

Esquire 12/7 2035 (Age of points)

I also had this question. I think we are supposed to treat theta as the variable of integration when normalizing. Nom nom nom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZeciX-3wfs

Esquire

Esquire 12/7 2052 (Age of semblance of credibility)

Actually one should use equation 4.150 (or a more generalized form of it) for normalizing spin functions.

eq 4.150 |a|^2+|b|^2=1 where a and b are the constants in front of the two spin functions.

Loves and kisses

Esquire

Spherical Chicken

So for the probability of getting would simply be whatever the coefficient in front of chi+ is correct? essentially just the |a|^2 is the probability of 1/2hbar.

Much love,

Chicken

Spherical Chicken

Does this test come with an equation sheet? Are we doing the same thing as before – turning it in on wednesday or something?

Dark Helmet 12/6 21:43

Maybe it's to difficult to do in one night-but if at all possible could we turn our sheets in wednesday like for the second test? I hate getting to wednesday night and thursday and changing my mind about what i should have put on there.


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